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  • zjones Novice 85 posts since
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    1,320. Mar 26, 2012 11:31 PM (in response to silverrose16701)
    Re: Gay marriage

    Well (ugh this is SOOO off topic, but..) employers will still hire who they want to hire.

     

    I get what bcavazos is saying in regards to spending money here for the HS and then spend even more money for the Degree program.

     

    If getting a degree and launching your career ASAP is the goal then you can save money with a GED IF you know for a fact you cannot earn much more with a High School Diploma. And if you do not mind it. Some people discriminate against those with a GED. And a High School Diploma is nothing special either compared to a Degree or a Certificate lol.

     

     

    I wanted to pursue a doctorate's in Neuroscience, even though it doesn't guarantee a job. It still would mean bank if I was ambitious enough and the economy was stable. I chose something else because it is my prerogative and I am more interested in enjoying finer living than begging for grant money so I can keep my job lol.

     

     

    Kaycee has less hoops to jump as a James Madison High graduate AND she can pocket up to $9,000 more if she happen to find an Employer that valued it while she pursues her degree. Just a scenario..I don't know 'kaycee'  from the next person.

  • bcavazos Novice 309 posts since
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    1,321. Mar 27, 2012 3:45 AM (in response to zjones)
    Re: Gay marriage

    I know and seen in photos that when the high school dipolmas are printed here it says Ashworth High School. not James Madison no longer............

  • bcavazos Novice 309 posts since
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    1,322. Mar 27, 2012 3:58 AM (in response to zjones)
    Re: Gay marriage

    Most jobs that require less than a college education only require "high school diploma or equivalent"

     

    the "equivalent" part means a GED. if the place cares about a real high school diploma, chances are they'll also want college experience.

  • silverrose16701 Master 4,753 posts since
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    1,323. Mar 27, 2012 4:05 AM (in response to bcavazos)
    Re: Gay marriage

    My friend, when you find a job, that you can live off of with a family to support, that only requires a high school diploma, where you will be able to live a comfortable lifestyle and retire at some point, let me know =).

  • Apprentice 365 posts since
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    1,324. Mar 27, 2012 12:23 PM (in response to silverrose16701)
    Re: Gay marriage

    yup i sure do <3 lol and its cool i actually find it very intertaining xD @bcavazos

  • silverrose16701 Master 4,753 posts since
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    1,325. Mar 27, 2012 5:27 PM (in response to Grace Dickens)
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    Best entertainment that the internet can provide, is when people try to peacock, and pretend they are on the same level as Harvard or Yale professors.

  • zjones Novice 85 posts since
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    1,326. Mar 27, 2012 5:39 PM (in response to bcavazos)
    Re: Gay marriage

    bcavazos wrote:

     

    I know and seen in photos that when the high school dipolmas are printed here it says

    Ashworth High School. not James Madison no longer.........

     

    Yes I agree with you. I also found that at some point James Madison HS was changed to Ashworth HS. This is no longer the case as of Jan 2011. You do not have to take my word for it, check the references or the SACS regional accreditation organization. My guess is that this doesn't even matter to you since you already have a degree.

     

     

    Most jobs that require less than a college education only require "high school diploma or equivalent"

     

    the "equivalent" part means a GED. if the place cares about a real high school diploma, chances are they'll also want college experience.

     

    -Yes, so you agree to my original post on this yesterday. They hold the same value for most employers in the united states.

     

    -You kind of contradicted yourself. GED is equivalent to HS Diploma for most employers and universities. So you cannot ask for supplemental college experience from one and not the other.

     

    In other words: If qualification required college experience in addition to a High School Diploma, it also requires college experience in addition to a GED.

     

     

    I think we all agree the HS Diploma and GED are pretty much yesterday's news when your a College Grad.

     

     

     

    References

     

    Citybiz List Atlanta (2011, January 10). Ashworth High School Changes Name to James Madison High School. General Business. Retrieved March 27, 2012, from http://atlanta.citybizlist.com/3/2011/1/10/Ashworth-High-School-Changes-Name-to-James-Madison-High-School.aspx

  • kaycee123 Novice 366 posts since
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    1,327. Mar 28, 2012 11:30 AM (in response to betsyburr)
    Re: Gay marriage

    bcavazos said:

     

    "first of all i am saying ASHWORTH HIGH SCHOOL then you have ASHWORTH COLLEGE is not a good look that is all i am saying for both... I am only here for the College.... well was here for the College.. I have my degree. All I am saying is I would not take the high here and college. Because I would not want both names thats the same listed on my resume."

     

    If you're enrolled in the Ashworth COLLEGE, why would you continue to say it's not a good look on a resume? You're just getting irritated because I'm giving you legit reasons as to why I'm here. Look, in my state, there's this program called "Running Start". It's offered to students that would like to take advanced high school courses at a community college of their choice. Now, once they complete high school (usually early), they continue their college courses at the community college they are already enrolled in. Would you say the same thing about these people? That it would look bad on a resume if they listed the comm. college as the place they received their diploma, AND the place they are currently continuing their education? I don't see why it matters.

     

    Like I said before, and I'll keep saying it again, and again until MAYBE you'll come to understand just a tad-bit, I decided to enroll into Ashworth's High School program (James Madison High) so that I can retain the education, and not feel like I copped out and just "took a test". And, by the way, in Washington, if you want to take classes for the GED, you have to pay for those as well. So, no, it's not free.

     

     

    bcavazos said:

    " i care about what is on my resume and both names just screams red flag... what high school do you know that you can go to and get a college degree from the high school?"

     

    I do not understand why this screams "red flag" to you. There are plenty of college's (mostly community one's) that allow you to get your high school diploma. This is not a new trend.

     

     

    Anyways, this topic is boring now. I've explained everything to the best of my abilities, and if you can't understand it... Well, tough sh*t. I'm doing the right thing, whether YOU think it's the right thing or not. It's not your education. It's mine. So back off, already. I really don't care what a resume should look like in YOUR eyes. I would just hope you spelt everything correctly on your own.

     

    Good day. :]

  • kaycee123 Novice 366 posts since
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    1,328. Mar 28, 2012 11:33 AM (in response to silverrose16701)
    Re: Gay marriage

    Work at a Casino, my friend. You only need a High School diploma or a GED and you can make big, big bucks. My mom works at one, and she doesn't have a college degree, and she's living pretty damn comfortably (and that's NOT including my dad's income, which is just as good. And he doesn't have a college education, either).

  • kaycee123 Novice 366 posts since
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    1,329. Mar 28, 2012 11:37 AM (in response to bcavazos)
    Re: Gay marriage

    "the "equivalent" part means a GED. if the place cares about a real high school diploma, chances are they'll also want college experience."

     

    If two people came into a work-place looking for a job, and one had a HS diploma, and the other had a GED, I feel like the employer would be more likely to hire the person with the HS diploma. It shows they obviously worked hard to get what they have. As opposed to dropping out, and taking a test... Doing it the easy way.

     

    Most employers DO ask for a HS diploma or equivalent, but even in those cases, they'll take the person with the diploma over the person with the GED.

  • manofmystery021 Novice 143 posts since
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    1,330. Mar 28, 2012 11:45 AM (in response to kaycee123)
    Re: Gay marriage

    Lol Well, I'm pretty sure she's done. She told me she doesn't want to start anything when she could be making friends instead.

  • jensor2023 Novice 176 posts since
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    1,331. Mar 28, 2012 11:46 AM (in response to kaycee123)
    Re: Gay marriage

    I agree with you kaycee..........I grew up on a notion that if you have a job keep it.  Work as hard as you can at the job and jumping from one job to the next is a risk move. When I was in highschool they tought us to write one type of resume and turned it in anywhere.  When I was growing up the diploma was better then a GED.  BUT that has all change.  You might get a GED or Diploma differently but they mean the same thing (and GED is a lot harder and it is made that way on purpose).  If you jump from job to job tech that is not a bad thing.  They say it shows that your not willing to sit a job, you want to better yourself.  And now you have to write a resume for each different types of job that you are appling to.  Since 2008 people with master degrees are trying to get jobs at MCD's.  Getting a college a degree doesn't guarntee you anything.  It doesn't get you a job. It is just a tool to help you to better yourself. Me and my roommate butt heads about this all the time.  Book Smarts vs. Street Smarts......He is a drop out (of highschool) and he is making about $2,000 a week. This is interesting because we live in a different world then what our parents grew up on........interesting.

  • kaycee123 Novice 366 posts since
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    1,332. Mar 28, 2012 12:00 PM (in response to jensor2023)
    Re: Gay marriage

    YES!! SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING! THANK YOU!

    Whether you're a high school drop out, or a college grad., everyone has a chance at a job.

     

    And you're right! The GED test is not easy! I dropped out after I failed my 11th grade year (I won't go into detail about my life, because some people will not understand and probably continue to say that I just took the easy way out. And I'm not going to deal with that.) and after about a year of job searching, I decided I should just get my GED. WELL, I looked at a practice test, and I knew NOTHING on it. I was already terrible at math. Fine at reading and writing, but I didn't know anything on the Science section, either. So, I looked into the prep-classes. Well, those weren't cheap. So I decided if I'm going to spend money on classes, I may as well get a diploma for all my efforts. That's when I got online and looked around. I came across another online school, but that one didn't work out. Then I found Ashworth. And it's been the best decision I've made in a long time. And I got excited about learning! And now, I'm passing ALL of my classes, I've got a 3.0 GPA which is higher than I've ever had in my life (and it's NOT because of the "open book" option. I never do that.), because I'm WILLING to LEARN and GROW.

     

    And the willingness to LEARN AND GROW can also get you a job! HS diploma/GED/college education or not.

  • kaycee123 Novice 366 posts since
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    1,333. Mar 28, 2012 12:01 PM (in response to manofmystery021)
    Re: Gay marriage

    Yeah, I'm sure she is. And that's totally fine! I just wanted to stand up for myself. It's only fair, seeing as how I was offline for a few days, and was not able to reply right then and there. I will always reply, it may just be a couple days later. :]

  • zjones Novice 85 posts since
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    1,334. Mar 28, 2012 12:18 PM (in response to kaycee123)
    Re: Gay marriage

    Hell yes! I heard sooo many stories on how my grandmother worked her ass off for "wealthy white" as she put it (no offense to anyone) and all her kids were fed clothed and provided the opportunity for education.Dad held 3 jobs, mom held 2 and she was brilliant but no degree. You gotta have a bit of street smart or 'know how' too..not just a diploma in a pretty little plaque!

     

    I love learining and growing too. Its a survival skill.

     

    Id love to go back to the times where you could just walk to the neighborhood bookstore, ask for work, and they give you something to do. LOL.

     

    I agree with you kaycee this topic is boring  now.. or maybe its interesting now because no one is arguing anymore. I been hoping someone would kill the thread to keep me from checking it hahaha

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